【Academy Interview】 Seeking Multidisciplinary Theoretical Support for the Ideological and Political Education of University Students

The red cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains are precious wealth formed during the period of the Chinese revolutionary war, containing rich revolutionary history, revolutionary spirit, and revolutionary experience. These resources not only possess historical value but also have significant educational value. Regarding related issues in this field, our reporter interviewed Jiang Feng, a professor at the School of Marxism of Hubei Normal University and the author of *Research on Strengthening the Ideological and Political Education of University Students by Utilizing the Red Oral Cultural Resources of the Dabie Mountains*.

大别山红色文化资源是在中国革命战争时期形成的宝贵财富，蕴含了丰富的革命历史、革命精神和革命经验。这些资源不仅具有历史价值，更具有重要的教育价值。围绕该领域的相关问题，记者采访了《利用大别山红色口述文化资源加强大学生思想政治教育研究》的作者，湖北师范大学马克思主义学院教授江峰。

Revealing the Laws of the Inheritance and Evolution of the Red Gene

揭示红色基因传承演进规律

Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Net: What are the main significances of conducting research on strengthening the ideological and political education of university students by utilizing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains?

中国社会科学网：利用大别山红色口述文化资源加强大学生思想政治教育研究的意义主要体现在哪些方面？

Jiang Feng: The red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains are extremely abundant, primarily consisting of red poems and songs of the Dabie Mountains, explanations from red venues in the Dabie Mountains, and folk red stories of the Dabie Mountains. The space for research on resource utilization is vast. Utilizing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains to strengthen research on the ideological and political education of university students and enriching the characteristic content of university students’ ideological and political education is a positive response to the higher demands of ideological and political education in the new period, and it is of great significance.

江峰：大别山红色口述文化资源极为丰富，以大别山红色诗词歌谣、大别山红色场馆解说、大别山民间红色故事等为主体，资源利用研究的空间极大。利用大别山红色口述文化资源加强大学生思想政治教育研究，丰富大学生思想政治教育的特色内容，是对新时期大学生思想政治教育更高要求的积极回应，意义重大。

Studying the internal correlation and logical evolution between the integration and utilization of the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains and the ideological and political education of university students can strengthen the psychological identification and emotional penetration of ideological and political education among university students, thereby improving its practical operational effectiveness. Within the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, there are numerous activity resources from different periods where Marxists in the Dabie Mountain region propagated advanced Marxist culture. These propagation activities, characterized by local oral features, played a very powerful role in promoting the revolution in the Dabie Mountain region and the establishment of the people’s values, while also accumulating rich historical experience in Marxist propaganda and education. Excavating and organizing these red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, summarizing the laws of adapting Marxism to the Chinese context [1]1 adapting Marxism to the Chinese context: The official Chinese Communist Party term for the process of applying Marxist theory to China’s specific historical and practical conditions. and the experience of propaganda and education within them, holds important value and inspiration for improving the actual effectiveness of current ideological and political education for university students.

研究大别山红色口述文化资源的整合利用与大学生思想政治教育的内在关联和逻辑演进，可以强化思想政治教育在大学生中的心理认同和情感渗透，提高其实践运作成效。在大别山红色口述文化资源中，有诸多不同时期马克思主义者在大别山区进行马克思主义先进文化传播的活动资源，这些具有地方性口述特色的传播活动，对大别山地区的革命以及人民群众的价值观建立发挥了非常有力的促进作用，同时也积累了丰富的马克思主义宣传教育的历史经验。发掘、整理这些大别山红色口述文化资源，总结其中的马克思主义中国化发展规律和宣传教育经验，对提高当前大学生思想政治教育的实际效果具有重要的价值启示。

Through research on the integration and utilization of the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, reflecting on the historical development path of adapting Marxism to the Chinese context in the Dabie Mountain region, and exploring the experience of value cultivation within it, helps to reveal the basic laws of the inheritance of the red gene and the evolution of red culture, broadening new horizons and new ideas for the current ideological and political education of university students.

通过大别山红色口述文化资源的整合利用研究，反思马克思主义中国化在大别山区的历史发展理路，探索其中的价值观培育经验，有助于揭示红色基因传承和红色文化演进的基本规律，拓宽当前大学生思想政治教育新视域、新思路。

Conducting Research Using Multidisciplinary Methods

采用多学科方法开展研究

Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Net: In your research on strengthening the ideological and political education of university students by utilizing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, what research methods did you mainly adopt?

中国社会科学网：在利用大别山红色口述文化资源加强大学生思想政治教育研究中，您主要采用了哪些研究方法？

Jiang Feng: Strengthening the ideological and political education of university students by utilizing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains requires drawing on advanced theories, advanced technologies, and advanced methods from different disciplines such as philosophy, ethics, history, cultural genetics, phenomenology, education, and technology, to conduct multidisciplinary cross-research, thereby seeking multidisciplinary theoretical support for the ideological and political education of university students. In the research process, the main research methods I adopted include:

江峰：利用大别山红色口述文化资源加强大学生思想政治教育，需要借鉴哲学、伦理学、历史学、文化发生学、现象学、教育与技术学等不同学科的先进理论、先进技术和先进方法，开展多学科交叉研究，从而为大学生思想政治教育寻求到多学科的学理支撑。在研究过程中，我主要采用的研究方法包括：

The method of combining social investigation with resource analysis. Using investigation and resource analysis methods to comprehensively sort and multi-layeredly analyze the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, in order to reveal the internal laws of their generation, expansion, and multi-value transformation, and to analyze and solve a series of problems concerning the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains and the ideological and political education of university students.

社会调查与资源分析相结合的方法。运用调查与资源分析的方法对大别山红色口述文化资源进行全面梳理与多层透析，以揭示其生成、衍扩及多元价值转化的内在规律，分析解决大别山红色口述文化资源与大学生思想政治教育的一系列问题。

The method of unifying historical logic with economic and social reality. Placing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains within the broad context of the real economic society, analyzing the ontological characteristics of these resources and their internal relationship with the ideological and political education of university students, and studying their value and function for the ideological and political education of university students.

历史逻辑与经济社会现实相统一的方法。将大别山红色口述文化资源置于现实经济社会的宏阔背景下，分析这一资源的本体特质及其与大学生思想政治教育的内在关系，研究其对于大学生思想政治教育的价值功能。

The method of combining the language mirror approach with cognitive perspective analysis. By examining the structure, function, expression patterns, and migration of the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, revealing the inner cognitive journey and national psychology of Chinese red figures, penetrating the ideological foundation, quality characteristics, and spiritual core of the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains, examining their multiple values such as ethical, political, economic, educational, and artistic, focusing on revealing the high-quality cultural elements related to the ideological and political education of university students, and exploring the unique value functions of these elements in the new period.

语言镜像法和认知透视法相结合的方法。通过考察大别山红色口述文化资源的结构、功能、表达模式及其迁移，显示中国红色人物内在的认知心路与民族心理，透视大别山红色口述文化资源的思想底蕴、品质特征、精神内核，考察其伦理、政治、经济、教育、艺术等多元价值，重点揭示其中与大学生思想政治教育相关的优质文化元素，发掘这些元素在新时期独特的价值功能。

The cultural research method of integration and interaction. Emphasizing the issue of connecting the diverse traditional cultures commonly concerned by China’s academic circles with ideological and political education, interpreting the modern value of the red oral cultural heritage resources of the Dabie Mountains, and providing a reference framework for exploring the theoretical and practical interactive evolution between the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains and the ideological and political education of university students.

契合互动的文化研究方法。重视当前我国学术界共同关心的多元传统文化与思想政治教育相衔接的问题，对大别山红色口述文化遗产资源的现代价值进行阐释，为探索大别山红色口述文化资源与大学生思想政治教育的理论与实践互动演进提供参照系。

The multi-directional comparative research method. By comparing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains with red oral cultural resources from different regions, comparing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains with other forms of red cultural resources, and comparing the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains with characteristic cultural resources worldwide, studying the unique value functions and resource advantages of the red oral cultural resources of the Dabie Mountains in strengthening the ideological and political education of university students.

多向度的比较研究方法。通过大别山红色口述文化资源与不同区域的红色口述文化资源比较、大别山红色口述文化资源与其他形式的红色文化资源比较、大别山红色口述文化资源与世界范围内的特色文化资源比较，研究大别山红色口述文化资源对加强大学生思想政治教育的独特价值功能和资源优势。

Expanding the Multidimensional Horizons of Red Culture

拓展红色文化的多维视界

Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Net: Please discuss, based on your research, how to deepen the exploration and research of red culture and how to expand the multidimensional horizons of red culture.

中国社会科学网：请结合您的研究谈谈如何深化红色文化的探索研究，怎样拓展红色文化的多维视界？

Jiang Feng: First, based on the excavation of Marxist existential theory, expand the Marxist existential horizon of red culture. The Marxist existential horizon of red culture refers to a philosophical horizon that, by applying Marxist existential theory and starting from the existence of real people, observes the life existence, life narrative, life emotions, as well as the mode of existence, existential situation, and existential value of people within the red cultural existence system, thereby providing a perspective on the red cultural existence system and its value significance. Within this existential horizon, attention must be paid to observing the individual “person” in red culture. Starting from the Marxist existential horizon, one should perceive the life existence of each “person” in red culture, reflect on their lofty ideal and faith pursuits, understand their existential situation, trace their existential trajectory, explore their personality formation, and feel their life sentiments and spirit.

江峰：首先，基于马克思主义生存论的发掘，拓展红色文化的马克思主义生存论视界。红色文化的马克思主义生存论视界，是指运用马克思主义生存论，从现实的人的存在出发，观照红色文化存在系统中人的生命存在、生命叙事、生命情感以及生存方式、生存处境、生存价值等，从而对红色文化存在系统及其价值意义予以透视的一种哲学视界。在这一生存论视界下，就要注重观照红色文化中个体的“人”。从马克思主义生存论视界出发，感悟红色文化中一个个“人”的生命存在，反思其中“人”的崇高理想信仰追求，理解其中“人”的生存处境，追溯其中“人”的生存轨迹，探究其中“人”的人格生成，感受其中“人”的生命情愫和精神。

Second, based on the reflection of Marxist epistemology, expand the Marxist epistemological horizon of red culture. Marxist epistemology has the prominent characteristics of modern epistemology; it focuses on grasping the epistemological communicative relationships between subjects from communicative practice, because “the production of ideas, conceptions, consciousness is at first directly interwoven with the material activity and the material intercourse of men, the language of real life.” [2]2 This is a quotation from Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, *The German Ideology* (1845-46), Part I, Section A. Applying Marxist epistemology, by examining the communicative practice of red culture, from the material and spiritual communicative activities, communicative relationships, communicative fields, and communicative forms of the various subjects of red culture, one can reveal the essence and essence of red culture, and penetrate the excellent genes of red culture, thereby inheriting, elucidating, and developing this special cultural form within a philosophical horizon. Within this epistemological horizon, one must adopt a spirit of active reflection to analyze certain prominent cultural existence phenomena in red culture.

其次，基于马克思主义认识论的反思，拓展红色文化的马克思主义认识论视界。马克思主义认识论具有现代认识论的突出特点，它注重从交往实践中，把握主体间的认识交往关系，因为“思想、观念、意识的生产最初是直接与人们的物质活动，与人们的物质交往，与现实生活的语言交织在一起的。运用马克思主义认识论，通过考察红色文化的交往实践，从红色文化诸主体的物质和精神的交往活动、交往关系、交往场域、交往形态等之中，揭示红色文化的本质和精髓，透视红色文化的优秀基因，从而传承、阐扬、发展这一特殊文化形态的一种哲学视界。在这一认识论视界下，就要以积极反思的精神，剖析红色文化中某些突出的文化存在现象。

Third, based on the application of Marxist methodology, expand the Marxist methodological horizon of red culture. The Marxist methodological horizon of red culture refers to a philosophical horizon that applies the scientific methods of dialectical materialism and historical materialism, that is: placing red culture within the entire historical and cultural context of human society for investigation and research, embodying the basic principles, fundamental stance, and ideological essence of Marxist methodology, and highlighting the practical foundation, dialectical thinking, subject activity, and world perspective characteristics of Marxist methodology. One must be adept at guiding with Marxist scientific methodology, especially adept at using its method of contradiction analysis, to establish a series of basic principles and methods related to the inheritance, innovation, and development of red culture, using research to promote dissemination, using dissemination to trigger research, and improving the effectiveness of the protection, application, and development of red cultural resources. One must be adept at guiding with Marxist scientific methodology, highlighting the practical orientation of Marxist methodology, and creating a series of practical method models for red culture.

再次，基于马克思主义方法论的运用，拓展红色文化的马克思主义方法论视界。红色文化的马克思主义方法论视界，是指运用辩证唯物主义和历史唯物主义科学方法，即：将红色文化置于整个人类社会历史文化境域予以考察、研究，体现马克思主义方法论的基本原则、根本立场、思想精髓，突出马克思主义方法论的实践基础、辩证思维、主体活动、世界视野诸特点的一种哲学视界。要善于以马克思主义科学方法论为指导，尤其要善于运用其矛盾分析法，确立起一系列相关红色文化传承、创新和发展的基本原则方法，以研究促进传播，以传播引发研究，提高红色文化资源保护、应用与开发的功效。善于以马克思主义科学方法论为指导，突出马克思主义方法论的实践指向，创构一系列红色文化的实践方法模式。

Furthermore, based on the elaboration of Marxist axiology, expand the Marxist axiological horizon of red culture. The Marxist axiological horizon of red culture refers to the use of Marxist axiology to construct a value system of red culture, to explore the general value issues of red culture, and to study the attributes inherent in its various material and spiritual phenomena as well as their certain positive significance for society, classes, and individuals. Within this axiological horizon, it is necessary to proceed from Marxist values to discover and promote the intrinsic value of the traditional resources of red culture. In particular, it is essential to skillfully apply the Marxist values with contemporary Chinese characteristics, namely the core socialist values, to examine, interpret, and reveal the attributes inherent in the various material and spiritual phenomena of the traditional resources of red culture from different dimensions and levels, and to explore their value nature, value composition, value standards, and value evaluation.

此外，基于马克思主义价值论的阐扬，拓展红色文化的马克思主义价值论视界。红色文化的马克思主义价值论视界，即指运用马克思主义价值论，建构红色文化的价值观念体系，探讨红色文化的一般价值问题，研究其各种物质和精神现象所固有的属性及其对于社会、阶级和个人的一定积极意义。在这一价值论视界下，就要从马克思主义价值观出发，发掘、弘扬红色文化传统资源的内在价值。尤其要善于运用当今中国特色的马克思主义价值观，即社会主义核心价值观，从不同维度和层面，考察、阐释、揭示红色文化传统资源中的各种物质、精神现象所固有的属性，探讨其价值性质、价值构成、价值标准和价值评价等。

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